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Warframe subsume tier list3/5/2023 ![]() In fact many abilities that we can subsume are like that, and they shine in different situations, much like Radial Blind and Breach Surge, one is better for melee finishers and the other is better if you use guns instead. ![]() So rather than them being 2 tiers lower, they can be the other side of the same coin. ![]() The Grouping interaction with punchthrough/multi hit is something that could make those 2 abilities arguably as good as Petrify, what they lose in duration and no vulnerability bonus they gain by putting enemies together, while Petrify has longer duration and vulnerability bonus but makes you go after enemies individually (meaning it might actually result in less kills over time due to the time spent going after the kills). I actually thought about putting Ensnare on my Concentrated Arrow build because it has more range than sleep arrow and Concentrated Arrow, meaning that it will drag enemies from further away into the range of Concentrated Arrow (sleep is cool for the headshot, but the Ensnare pull has more range and also makes the enemy stop). I might actually put Larva on Chroma because of that and because I like using Effigy, and with Larva I can force enemies to be in range of Effigy. I dunno, Nidus and Khora seem to be a bit too low since their abilities can be really good on damage frames.īy grouping enemies you increase the value of melee and punchthrough by quite a lot, and if the frame already increases their own damage but lack such kind of CC, then it's very useful.
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